Jan 8, 2013 12:00am PST
was going, "what is going on here? " you know, vegas was part of -- you know, nevada and utah were mormon and the center of power used to be up in salt lake city which it is still to a degree. you know, it was sort of frowned upon. there was gambling and prostitution and stuff down there and it was frowned upon, but then with all this money, i think the folks up there went, hey, we should get our hands around this and get control over this situation. then it made for strange bedfellows and really odd marriages of really different cultures in a way that we'd never seen before. tavis: yeah. so what are you learning so far? it's still early in the process, but what are you learning about walking in the shoes of a wiseguy trying to go good? >> well, it's really an interesting perspective. all right, try to divorce yourself from me for a moment. tavis: okay. >> this is kind of part of my process is, you know, reading, talking to individuals, taking in information from whatever quarter i can find it. so the attitude is, not speaking for myself now, what separates me from law enforcement?